I have found lately that the more people seem to be coming out of the woodwork to criticize what others think or write. If you make a comment that is against some “minority group’s” comment you are labeled a hater of that group. When you state something that comes up in studies which a religious group seems to think puts their heroic leader in a bad light, you are labeled stupid or ignorant. And if you make some comment about what you have found, there are those who make a comment that they won’t make a comment and them proceed to write a long dissertation as to why they aren’t leaving a comment and how wrong you are (again) to put down their hero. When I post, it is to put forth my comments/opinions/observations. I don’t expect people to either agree or disagree with me. If I want a reply/observation/opinion I do ask. Currently I have people on this place, twitter and a couple other places who all they do is post “hate” messages and give no real reasonable conversation about what I post. I may not happen to agree, but I try to hold a constructive conversation. Problem is these people seem bent on not reading all the way through and call me untruthful, a bigot, and ignorant. Why is it people don’t seem to want to have a civil/constructive conversation. This I am posting out of exasperation since on of the posters seems to think waiting over a month or more will change the outcome and my mind.
It seems that the men of this town are at it again. One has left his so called friends in a lurch by taking a job without discussing it first and so abandoning a steady business he was suppose to be building. And I just found out that I may have a partner I neither wanted nor needed who is going to help “keep me in my place” by dictating to me how and what I am to put in my “shop” to sell! (no “pagan” items which to them include jewelry, candles, herbs, incense etc.).
It is funny how the people I had hoped would stand by me and stand up for my rights have turned on me and are now siding with those I told I wanted nothing to do with! These self same people pulled this back around 1992-95 when the got involved with people I said I wanted nothing to do with, and they basically took our inventory, sold it all and vanished leaving us with tons of bills that they, not we, ran up! Funny how after they said they would listen and trust me, they are pulling us back into the same situation as back then, and they still won’t heed my warnings! I am wondering if they will ever learn!
Have you ever run across the excuse of the family/spouse’s/Child’s religion was an embarrassment? Why would a person’s personal/private spiritual beliefs be an embarrassment to anyone? Paganism or Polytheists usually don’t advertise their beliefs, especially if they believed that doing so could cause them persecution, or harm to themselves or their loved ones.
It seems that more and more people of the monotheistic persuasion are putting false labels on Paganism lately. Some of the terms used are as follows: Delusional, hateful, liars, selfish, and more. It is done to discredit those of us who want nothing to do with the religions Some even go as far as declaring that they would use the fact someone practiced Paganism against them in order to put her in her place. The person, a man, said that she thought she was entitled and therefore better than men. I mean really! We don’t advertise, we prefer to be left alone and we use our abilities to better our lives and the lives of our families and friends. The afore mentioned woman, has many friends who are Christian and is a retailer who sells to pagans, as well as Christians. I am a pagan, and have discussed the bible with a Priest of both the Catholic and Lutheran faiths. Neither of them know what my religious persuasion is, and have never asked. Since my studies cover all belief systems I tend to discuss and know the bible very well…
We pagans know better than to think we are better than anyone else. We do charitable work but never brag about it. We are not all feminists; some of us are mothers, aunts, uncles, fathers and more. We respect life and the right to choose our own path that we wish to walk. We are strong, gentle and kind to others. So next time someone decides that you should not believe as you want, or run your life as it suits you, take a good look at that person. You might find out that he/she is accusing you of exactly what they are.
This is not regarding all men, but is about those I have been having to deal with since moving to the Midwest! I was just informed that I was a crazy liberal feminist who had to be put in my place and that my religious beliefs (which I don’t advertise in the town I live in) would be used against me! I was informed that I was here to “take care of men” and sat on my duff all day and did nothing. That I was a burden and an embarrassment because I happen to be pagan and that was what fueled my delusions of being better than men. WTF! This seems to be the general consensus of 90% of the men I have been running into lately. I don’t work because 1. There really are no jobs in this town for people who were not born here, or a man (I prefer working with cattle but no one will hire a 50+ woman to do a “man’s” job) and 2. my husband prefers that I am home working my crafts and helping around the house. I am currently editing a book for a friend. My religious and political beliefs I don’t talk about and are nowhere near what they want people to think I believe. Funny but they think I will be submissive and cow down to them because they are holding this over my head. The problem for them is 2 can play at this game and without solid proof, they are only spouting hot air. The problem for me? Most women in this town will go along with it because they haven’t the strength to stand against the lies. Think about it!
I know this is a rant and sore spot with me. Every chance I get I try to keep posting something about this very subject. Each respective religion from Pagan to Christian to Jew to Muslim and so on, have beliefs that are similar. IE Love and help others. It is when they became organized and people started trying to interpret those beliefs that someone got the bright idea to CONVERT others. Soon it became a knock down drag out fight to see which belief was the TRUE one. They seemed to forget that we have a choice in the matter. You won’t “GO TO HELL” if you don’t convert. That is the popular mantra of the Christians, and if truth be told Christ NEVER forced anyone to follow him. Seems that now the Pagans are picking up on that as well. It use to be you were called to a particular single or group of Deities, now if you don’t believe the was a group or the majority of Pagans believe, you are no more than a pretender or “wannabe.” It is sad that people who think know better than those whose free will they are messing with.
I wonder about people who claim to be Christians. I say “Claim” for a reason. The Christ they are supposedly following never forced people to follow him. He did not put them down for their beliefs and taught be example and parables. There have been at least two fanatics whom I have had the misfortune of knowing since I moved to this little town. One I believe had a nervous brake down when someone called him out on some lies, while the other sent the first pastor of that church packing by claiming sexual abuse. The guy was not a predator. I believe that the gal was and still is nuts. I gave a friend a gift, a handmade dragon in her favorite colors. The gal asked what the thing was and I told her. She spend the rest of the afternoon preaching crap and trying to ruin my friend’s birthday then did a half hearted apology for “ruining” her birthday. She was not sorry at all. It is people like her and their newest pastor who give Christians a bad rep.